We do not stand with Communists

[FCTP]

Ladies and Gentlemen:  We are presently in Washington, DC for a Values Voter Summit.  Values Voters Summit is made up of Conservative organizations who come together to learn from each other.  

 

During our stay we have been with many who went to the Occupy DC "March" just to see what was going on.   To see it first hand is to watch an organized group of communists, thugs and mis-guided people shout about things they do not even understand.  It has been revealed this am that Van Jones PAID for hispanics to carry signs which they could not read or understand.  

 

Nancy Pelosi said the Tea Party Movement was astroturf and today we call her out about that statement.  This Occupy Protest IS Astroturf and manufactured by the left to ensure Obama gets re-elected.   The people who are showing up are violent and have damaged property and hurt other people.  This is escalating and although we laugh at these people because they can't even say why they are there  -- we urge our members to be careful and stay away from these "so called protests."  

 

We have watched our blogs and one or two in this tea party are stating they will go to these protests and stand with these Communists.  Let it be known that should you do that - you do not represent the tea party movement.  You are there as individuals and you have no authority to speak on behalf of the First Coast Tea Party.  We also question if you are a true tea party believer or if you are in here solely as a mole for your own personal beliefs.

 

In no way would tea party members stand with Communists - they are the complete opposite of who we are.

 

Go to their website at www.occupywallstreet.org and you can see the names of the organizations behind this uprising.  Do we stand with these people or these organizations?  

 

God bless you and stay safe.

 

 

 

 

 

[Steve Tikas]

Mrs. McBridge.  Dennis Kucinich has a bill that lays out a plan in regards to what you are talking about.  http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_ACT.pdf

 

I read threw it and I think it answers all of the questions you have.  In the bill they would have to give statements to the American people about why they where spending money and there would be biennial audits that are actually shown to the American people.  The people elected to sit on the board would be approved threw Congress much like a judge is but they would only be in for six year.   I'm sure people smarter then myself could read it and suggest some changes but from what I ready I thought it was a pretty good plan.  At least something that we can use as a starting post.

 

It is only 46 pages so it is something you can read pretty easily.

[Patricia M. McBride]

New article about this...........KUHNER: Obama’s October revolution

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/6/obamas-october-revol...

[Patricia M. McBride]

JL, I have to agree with you.  When I look at those who support these folks and what they are, it says much.  These are nothing any of us should be aligned with!   Van Jones, Obama, Soros, Pelosi (hte wicked witch), and many other very left side folks and the communist party USA got this started.  Sounds like a recipe for communism to me.  I guess they are hoping they gets things stirred up enough to make things worse so they can take their plans a step further!

[Patricia M. McBride]

Amanda, although I certainly agree with the right to protest as these folks are, I also agree with several other people in that they are not protesting the problem.  Too a point, I agree with Herman Cain.  They are in the wrong spot.  They should be in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue since it is the policies of this president, his cronies and the resulting federal reserve policy.  I think the federal reserve was always, from the very start, given far more latitude than they EVER should have had, and it is a problem.  In the same token, if we get rid of the federal reserve banks, what do you propose to replace it with?  You see, the other option is the congress, and somehow, I don't think having someone like Nancy Pelosi deciding about our money supply is something that instills confidence.  How do you handle that, and I also think some of you have come up with wonderful comments and information.  Great stuff!

[Steve Tikas]

And if you reread your post you said a protest is not going to change things you didn't specify OWS.

[Steve Tikas]

You are right I misread your quote.  You have also misquoted me a couple of days ago when you tried to make it sound like I said the Tea Party started OWS but I think you simply misread my quote so please don't get high and mighty about people misreading your quote.  At least I will admit when I'm wrong I tried showing you that you misquoted me and you didn't acknowledge your misquote.  But I digress. If you need me to go back and pull the quotes I would be more then happy to.

No offense sir but if you say something that I feel is wrong I will involve you in my response if you choose not to acknowledge me that is your choice but please don't think you can try to tell me what I should or should not do. 

[JL Gawlik]

@Steve Tiras, you do not read posts very clearly. I stated that the OWS protests and related protests, are not going to change anything, and it is clear who is backing it all, I personally do not agree with the protests, period. I never stated protests do not do good, just that one for very obvious reasons, it is a created protest, is not a grass roots protest.

Again you are twisting words that are being said.

I am very aware of history, do me a favor and just do not involve me in any more of your comments, i am done with you.

[JL Gawlik]

Juan, i am very well aware of what the Federal Reserve is and stands for. It was created by Progressive Democrat President Wilson. It should never have been created period. The paradigm in our country is changing as well as in the world. I am very aware of what is going on, and i am doing what i can do most to save our Constitutional Republic for future generations.

[Steve Tikas]

I know you are right Juan they are all essentially together I see Wall Street as the face of the Fed.  You know people always lash out against what they can see and rarely look past that.  I actually thought the Fed owned Wall Street not the other way around so thank you for the correction.  It is a small difference but to defeat an enemy you have to properly understand it so thank you.

[Steve Tikas]

Mr. Honiker: Yes there are probably some pretty horrible things.  I have never said I'm associated with them.  I said that I think some of the things said on here have painted ALL of them with the same brush and sorry that isn't right. 

 

@JL I'm not trying to encourage anyone to do anything I'm posting my feelings about how I see things if that changes someone's point of view on things so be it but that is not my intent. 

Protest do change things regardless of if you want to admit it or not.  Hell the Tea Party is named after the largest protest in US history which did change things so to say that protest don't change things is simplistic on your part.  That was also a violent protest as well far more violent and destructive then anything these people on Wall Street have done.  You paint yourself as a follower of history you should be aware of that.  I can't and won't say that this specific protest is going to change anything because at this point it might or it might not it is unclear.

 

And so you would know I would never go anywhere and pretend I speak for the Tea Party.  First and foremost I was and continue to be Steve Tikas and I am much happier being myself then trying to paint myself as the Tea Party.  To label myself as part of this group paints me as someone that believes everything that the Tea Party stands for and while I do support many things I am obviously at odds with some of the views of many in the group.

 

You talk like I have been defending the OWS protestors tooth and nail and haven't said anything bad about them.  I've been very critical about things and I am more then happy to point out where they are wrong just as I point out where I think people in this group are wrong.