City Council Bill 2011 361 Regional Transportation Center; more info on the background. You will be shocked!

[Patricia M. McBride]

If you want to see the "Plan" and this very much looks like something from the Peyton "reign" .... 2006, go here and scroll down to the article with pictures (hmmm is it just me or is parking missing totally from these pictures?).

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/trafficoperations/Newsletters/2006/02_20...

Below info is primarily from this link, and various pages off this homepage. I have taken the liberty of doing cut and paste on some. Interesting reading, and don't believe for a minute this is a no cost project. The JTA has ideas of grandeur and MUCH power.

http://www.northfloridartsc.com/Pages/default.aspx

Governor Charlie Crist signs a legislation bill (sponsored by the late Senator Jim King and Representative Audrey Gibson) that explores unifying the regions seven counties transportation initiatives under one governing entity.

House Bill: HB1297 can be found here: http://www.jtafla.com/pdf/RTA/HB1297.pdf

The membership of the Regional Transportation Study Commission is established by Senate Bill 2470 as follows:

Studies and Legislation

The idea of developing a regional approach to transportation in Northeast Florida has been discussed for several decades.

In 1987, Executive order 86-148 created the First Coast Regional Transportation Study Committee. The committee’s report recommended the creation of a 5-county regional transportation authority that would be governed by a 9-member governing board. No action was taken on these recommendations.

In 2009, House Bill 1213 was enacted requiring the JTA to perform a Regional Transportation Authority study at the direction of FDOT. That study affirmed the need for a regional approach to transportation in Northeast Florida but also recommended additional study. Most importantly, the 2009 Regional Transportation Authority Study Final Report found that the development of a regional transportation elements plan is needed as the basis for further action on any regional transportation initiative.

On June 4, 2010, Governor Crist signed Senate Bill 2470 into law (Public law 2010-212). Public Law 2010-212 establishes the North Florida Regional Transportation Study Commission (RTSC). The RTSC is required to submit its final report to the Governor, the President of the Senate, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives by December 31, 2012. Its final report must make specific legislative recommendations, including a regional transportation elements plan, the defining characteristics of transportation elements of regional significance, and an implementation plan for undertaking a regional transportation elements plan.

 

On June 4, 2010, Governor Crist signed Senate Bill 2470 into law (Public law 2010-212). Public Law 2010-212 established the North Florida Regional Transportation Study Commission (Commission).

The Commission members include representatives from each of the 7 counties in Northeast Florida (Baker, Clay, Duval, Flagler, Nassau, Putnam and St. Johns). Additionally, the Chair of the North Florida Transportation Planning Organization, Chair of the Northeast Florida Regional Council and the District II Secretary of the Florida Department of Transportation serve as ex-officio, non-voting members of the Commission.

The Commission is required to submit its final report to the Governor, the President of the Senate, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives by December 31, 2012.

The final report must make specific legislative recommendations, including a regional transportation elements plan, the defining characteristics of transportation elements of regional significance, and an implementation plan for undertaking a regional transportation elements plan. The implementation plan may include the establishment of the regional transportation authority, draft legislation, and any other recommendations the Commission deems appropriate.

Underneath this, you will find a list of study reports and additional laws for setting this whole thing up. Pay special attention to 2009 Regional Transportation Study Final Report.

This report gives a really good picture of what the JTA has planned and it is going to be VERY expensive, and they see themselves as being extremely powerful and without pretty much any oversight at all. This was from 2009, so I can only imagine what the report due on 12/31/2012 will look like, but that is the point. The report is not due until the end of 2012 which is 1 1/2 years from now. Still plenty of time to take a look at this and the fiscal impact on the taxpayers (the fiscal impact is going to be huge cause these folks are going to build an empire for themselves). I feel the reason Peyton and JTA are trying to do the land transfer now, is to start a process they plan on forcing us into. A study was done in 2008 or 2009 about the use of public transit and what people wanted, and only 13% of those in the poll said they would use such a thing. Most asked for better roads. Timing is everything though, and the study will be after Obama is removed from office hopefully, and he is the high speed rail/high rise living in centralized areas guy (with everyone walking, using public transit and riding a bicycle).

 

The study commission also had a criteria of having the meetings for this study commission in each of the areas making it possible for people included in the whole area to be covered to attend a meeting or meetings, but thus far, they have each and every meeting in the same location in Palatka.  If you check at this link, you can go to each meeting, then click on meeting  information on the left, and it takes you to a page that gives you more info including the location (it is the same for every meeting).  http://northfloridartsc.com/Pages/MeetingInformation.aspx 

Putnam County BOCC
County Commissioners Meeting Room
2509 Crill Avenue, Suite 100
Palatka, FL 32177

• Two citizens of Baker, Clay, Flagler, Nassau, Putnam and St. Johns County appointed by their respective Board of County Commissioners
• Four citizens of Duval County appointed by the City Council of the City of Jacksonville
• The Chair of the Jacksonville Transportation Authority, who shall serve as Chair of the Commission.

Non-voting Members (3)

• The Florida Department of Transportation’s District II Secretary
• The Chair of the Northeast Florida Regional Council
• The Chair of the North Florida Transportation Planning Organization
  

Members (17)What is the RTSC?

COMMISSION MEMBERS

 

	Michael Cavendish Chairman
	Baker County
	Jimmy Anderson Commission Member
	Gordon Crews Commission Member
	Clay County
	Travis Cummings Commission Member
	John Mahoney, III Commission Member
	Duval County
	Eric Green Commission Member
	Pete Kelly Commission Member
	Sam Mousa Commission Member
	Robert Rhodes Commission Member
	Flagler County
	Milissa Holland Commission Member
	Jon Netts Commission Member
	Nassau County
	Steve Rieck Commission Member
	Ken Willette Commission Member
	Putnam County
	Kenny Eubanks Commission Member
	Vernon Myers Commission Member
	St. Johns County
	Jay Morris Commission Member
	Joe Stephenson Commission Member
	Ex-OFFICIO
	Alan Mosley District Two Secretary Florida Department of Transportation
	Elaine Brown Chairman Northeast Florida Regional Council
	Doug Conkey Chairman North Florida Transportation Planning Organization

[Patricia M. McBride]

PS the link to the blog is here:  http://firstcoastteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/city-council-bill...

You might take a look and see if I need to add anything .........  it's pretty long!

[Patricia M. McBride]

have you got a copy of the EZ map on your computer?  If you do, send it to me at my Email address.  I will download it and upload to another site so I can put the actual map in living color on the listing?  Is that what you would like or do you want to post it in your comment which would be good as well.  If you wish to do that, you can upload the picture for free to http://photobucket.com/.

You do have to sign up and get a user/password if you don't have one, but after you upload, you can click on the appropriate link on the pic to get the HTML code to put it on your comment.

[CJ]

Um, dont know, its new territory for me. 

Maybe use some of whats there and lets expand on what is it. 

When I see it I will add my letter to council but would like to ask the EZ map be added to it some how for clarification to all

[Patricia M. McBride]

CJ, I gathered as much info as I could find on bills 383 and 384 and have put it up as a blog which is waiting for approval.  You have much info on these and wonder if you want me to gather it from the blogs and reposts where you mentioned it or if you want to post something else?????

[Patricia M. McBride]

This should be posted as a blog CJ, so that people are truly aware they will need to (yet again) take some sort of action.  You have gone back and watched the tape of the meeting and I agree with what you have except perhaps the part where Yarborough tells Lee they are there on behalf of the people because that is who they represent and not the mayor.  I was so proud of him!!  and Lee hated it and gave him a nasty look for saying it.

[CJ]

the whole meeting Lee was saying "lets move along", "quickly turn the page", "Its almost 1". (Certainly not the attitude that one should have, especially the Chair when conduting City business ESPECIALLY A LAW THAT WILL COST MILLIONS.)

Bishop raises concerns the Bill is being rushed. Bill contains many complex issues, too many for normal cycle and should go another cycle.

Lee keeps venting about the Bill taking the normal course of cycle and needs to move (obviously forgetting Rules is part of the cycle and members are not getting needed time to understand the Bill and still need answers)

2:38 into the meeting Lee admits "Administration wants this Bill out of committee"
2:41 Auditors admit they still need answers too but are willing to move the Bill to Council
2:43 Yarborough states "many bills sit on agenda for many months siting the first Bill on the agenda from 2010
2:43 Lee to Yarborough "Mr Yarborough, get on with it". saying it real snotty
2:44 Lee says Administration wants this Bill out of committee,Yea or nay, if thats what admin. wants thats what they get
2:44 Bishop calls "Point of Order" and is trying to communicate with Legislative Services-Rohan.
2:44 Lee denies Point of Order and moves to next Bill
2:44 Bishop still trying to communicate with Rohan who said Chair leads the meeting
2:44 Point of order denied again
2:44 Committee rep.'s walk out
2:45 meeting adjourned while Lee rants and disrespects members on camera about people not getting their way, taking their ball and going home and walking out.
Video stops

Lee's behavior and attitude absolutely unacceptable on many issues

Next day Webb calls for a Meeting of the Whole to finish Rules meeting for Thursday. Meeting on Thursday Webb forgets he should not be sitting as the Chair and should have relinquished it to another member because he was voting. (TSK TSK)

Both Meetings should be null and void, Rules Because it was conducted under duress, Meeting of the Whole because Webb should not have Chaired.

NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS with Ethics

[Patricia M. McBride]

Do we rally and write to every single one of them except her and say watch the tape of the meeting.  Someone called a rule, and she ignored them.  Up until then, when she failed to acknowledge Joost (I think it was Joost  who called a rule), everyone was still seated and staying.  This is so dumb!

[CJ]

We nee to rally for our guys!

I dont think either Bill has a chance to pass and anyone one of the Councilmen/woman that votes yes to pass them will have wrath upon them

[Patricia M. McBride]

Gee, I didn't realize she felt so bad.  Too bad she refused to follow the rules when someone called one.  And this must not be allowed to happen EVER.

[CJ]

Check this out

Denise Lee wants censure of City Council members who left Rules meeting

Submitted by Steve Patterson on June 29, 2011 - 6:53pmPolitijax 

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Denise Lee is seeking censure of four City Council members and a new rule to penalize members who leave committee meetings unexcused.

She's done gaveling open Rules Committee meetings for Jacksonville's City Council, but now Denise Lee is trying to drop the hammer on some committee members.

Lee has introduced a bill (2011-440) asking the council to censure four members who walked out of a June 20 committee meeting that she chaired.

The walkout left no quorum to hear several bills at the end of the meeting agenda. That led to the panel reconvening three days later and apologizing to about 15 people who came back to see what happened to the unresolved bills.

"The rules were broken. That's the issue," Lee said Wednesday. "The public was unfairly treated. Is this how we govern?"

Lee also filed a separate bill (2011-441) to create a new rule that members who leave a committee meeting unexcused will be removed from its membership. Councilwoman Glorious Johnson cosponsored both bills.

The second bill wouldn't affect the members who left last week's meeting, because the rule wasn't in place then.

"This isn't about me. It really isn't," Lee said. "This is about making sure this never happens again."

 

There more too, just didnt bring it with me