Please be careful what we post. I want to be better than the other groups not like them miss quoting things is wrong!!!

[Danny L. Cole]

This is on the http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-w... website. 

Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (1 month ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.

[amanda choate]

FDR created social security. He built the Tennessee-Tombigbee waterways, ending widespread flooding throughout the south and providing a hint of modernity with rural electrification. He built the dams that to are still serving country out west. He fought a great World War, turning loose our great industrial might. He gave the citizens of this country hope during its darkest hours. His "Fireside Chats" alone pulled this nation together towards a common goal.

I want good governance, not no governance. The least governed nations in the world are among the most corrupt and poorest. The most governed have the highest quality of living we know.

I want that for my kids, and I want an American version of that.

[amanda choate]

Look JL it was Truman who desegregated the military, but that was a problem how? That sounds kind of you know- ignorant.

How well were Americans living back then, most of the country had neither electricity or indoor plumbing. Women couldn't vote, blacks couldn't vote. You could get cocaine and heroin in your elixir at the local drugstore. Children were used as sources of cheap labor. Cities like Cleveland, Chicago, Pittsburgh had air that was unbreathable and you were more likely to die of  typhus than old age.

Being poor meant when there was no money, there was no food, no heat and certainly no health care. An injury to the breadwinner meant families were broken up and sent asunder. The slaughterhouses were sources of widespread disease.

Monopolies controlled the economy and government. Not until Teddy and antitrust legislation were the bounds that held most Americans in a state of perpetual indenturedness loosened.

I am for hte working man. He is getting pressed from both sides, top and bottom.

Corporations won't see to it that he is provided an opportunity, which is all most want, to give their children a better life. Call me names like progressive. liberal, communist whatever, but until YOU let go of your government supplied healthcare and monthly checks, your voice rings with hypocrisy. And That hypocrisy is all I can hear.

[JL Gawlik]

One more thing Amanda, look back prior to 1928 look what happened prior, Progressive Democrat that created the IRS, The Federal Reserve, he segregated the military, federal government, imposed many regulations and mandates. Look back at what FDR proposed, he almost literally destroy our country with more Progressive Democrat big government controls and hand outs.

What works? A small limited government, states having their own sovereignty over social issues, schools etc, all left to the local governments, not a big federal government dictating social issues, etc., Communities solve social issues, Free Enterprise, Capitalism, that is what made our country so great, the PEOPLE, not the GOVERNMENT. I can not really answer your questions without addressing all that I did because of what is happening, the spending the massive size government, unions trying to control jobs in America, it is a mess with so many people trying to control and dictate to the American, period. We are on the very verge of loosing our Liberty and Freedoms, Government is NOT answer, neither is more spending, they are the problem and they have created this horrific mess. We need to get them out of the way period and get back to the foundation of our Founding Fathers, who knew through history, what worked and what failed. Man has always strived for Liberty and Freedom, that is where they can be most productive and happy, period. I do not expect you to see eye to eye with me nor do i expect you to change your views, because you have been very clear where you are coming from, these are my thoughts.

[JL Gawlik]

I also believe in the FCTP mission statement: http://fctpcommunity.org/

WE THE PEOPLE

The First Coast Tea Party’s mission is to promote the principles of our founding fathers – individual liberty and responsibility, limited government and moral leadership.

We believe our mission statement is concise, focused and hopefully speaks to ALL Americans.

The tea party movement strives to embrace the concerns of all Americans, to focus on the issues, to inform the electorate of the activities of “our” government and to share ideas on how to restore our country to a constitutional footing intended by our founding fathers.

Those Americans who participate in the Tea Party Movement are free thinkers and individuals who want to be a part of “their” government, regain their liberties and fulfill the God given promises set forth in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

The tea party movement places no labels on anyone and is open to all who share our mission and want to have a voice in America’s future.

We are a nonprofit, grassroots group comprised of Americans of all walks of life who contribute their individual skills to the effort. Our primary tools are personal conversations, letters, rallies, visits to the offices of elected officials, telephone calls, discussion groups, educational and informational sessions, media coverage, news releases and independent Tea Party groups.

We are NOT affiliated with any political parties or interest groups.

The First Coast Tea Party founded in Jacksonville, Florida is powered by participants who volunteer sincerely in the movement.

We are patriots who believe elected officials are sworn to serve the country and their constituents transparently. They should be motivated by a desire to preserve and protect America and to uphold the principles that assure ALL Americans of thier constitutional rights, including life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

We are proud to be Americans and firmly believe in its youth and its future.

[JL Gawlik]

The President is now pushing to forgive TRILLIONS in College student loans, that is the next economic disaster for our country. I highly resent that, because i never took out a college loan, neither did any member of my family, we paid for it in cash, through HARD WORK period. Go back and look at all of my previous posts, blogs and comments and you can probably find more answers to more of your questions that you keep directing at me.

[JL Gawlik]

Money is literally flowing out of our country to foreign countries via Federal Government. There was millions discovered that went up to either Washington or Oregon state via stimulus and they hired illegal aliens to do the logging. Billions went to a Finland auto company and their workers to build a electric car thru the Crony Capitalism govt loan program. Billions have gone to other countries for off shore drilling and to build oil refineries, we lost over 11 oil rig drilling platforms because of this administrations anti-drilling policies, the jobs that are being lost right and left because of regulations and mandates is devastating still at over 400,000 per month of new first time ever sign ups for unemployment, that is  unconscionable. The federal government falsifies the figures like last month by over 58,000 new jobs that were actually striking Verizon workers going back to work. I could go on and on and on. The current administration, the current President, the current Progressive Democrat majority in the Congress are literally destroying our country and it has been proven with comments that i have heard from representatives in Congress, in the House comparing the way Boehner allows OPEN DEBATES, to the way former Speaker Nancy Pelosi controlled who said what when and the actually legislation was done behind CLOSED DOORS with a select few House members, just as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is still doing in the Senate, shows clearly that everything is being manipulated, the peoples' voice is NOT being heard in Congress period. I think Freshman Senator Marco Rubio and Freshman Congressman Allen West told the FCTP the truth when they stated back in March 2011 when they visited the Congress in DC:
Rep. Allen West – A gift from God sent to the front line in DC!  He said:  “Keep the Tea Party awake.  This place is crazy.  We must control the House in 2012 and take back the Senate too.  If we don’t have a good candidate to run against Obama, then we can control thorough the power of Congress.”
Senator Marco Rubio – Met with him for a few minutes as he was rushing out the door.  He was smiling and confident.  He said:  “This place is more screwed up than I could have imagined.  Keep up the good work with the Tea Party, we need you guys.”
Amanda, i really do not know why you even comment to my comments, you are clearly a Progressive Liberal Democrat by your comments, the same with several others at FCTP. I will never see things your way, period. I am a Constitutional Fiscal Conservative period. I believe in small limited government, period.  I do not believe in Socialism, in any form. Here is two of my favorite statements: “The only important difference between Nazi-ism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Progressivism, and Liberalism is the spelling; and that the last group hasn’t got the brains to figure it out.” ~Bill Vance 
“The problem with socialism is that sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money.” ~ Margaret Thatcher
Your statements clearly come from the left because you are claiming a CEO is collecting 20 million dollars and not paying taxes, that is a false statement and people like Buffett are liars, he is not paying the bulk of his taxes on taxable gains because that income has already been taxed, his company owes the Federal Government billions and billions of dollars in back taxes period. I web searched your comment '400 people in USA make more than 150 million Americans' and pulled up ALL Progressive Liberal Democrat sites. WHY? We do need a new simpler tax code and everyone should have skin in the game, but i can tell you right now since this dangerous group of Progressive Democrats have enabled billions of more entitlements to the American people, it is not going to easy to do, because they now think, they are OWED these entitlements and owe America NOTHING. The President is now pushing to forgive TRILLIONS in College student loans, that is the next economic disaster for o

[JL Gawlik]

Amanda, if you take the time and actually look around to what really is going on, perhaps then you could see a lot clearer. Just this past July over 600 plus new regulations, mandates and fees were put into place by the Federal Government. The disparity from income has come about because of the Federal Government, EPA, DOE, and many other Federal Departments that can actually make up their own regulations, mandates, fees without even going through Congress. Many middle income jobs have been lost because of this happening. And it had greatly excellerated since Jan 2007 when we started having crisis after crisis. This has been planned by the Progressive Democrats to basically destroy the middle class, period. They want a big government, they want masses of people depended on big government,  period. They want to usher in complete socialism and then the pathway to Marxism is built. There is NO 99%, that is another lie, go read what i have posted below. You are stating just what people who are Progressive Democrats, like Trumka, Ayers, Van Jones, Stephen Lerner, Rathke, etc., the top wage earners are paying most of the taxes. There has been report after report published by top economist, showing that if you even TOOK 75% of their income, it would not even put a dent in our debt, that is a complete lie coming from the far left. They are trying to created wealth envy to topple our government period.

http://www.Heritage.org/budgetchartbook/top10-percent-income-earner...

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12663

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/04/in-pictures-how-much-the-top-ea...

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-192.html

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/20/morning-bell-1-5-trillion-in-ne...

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13598

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/07/14/video-eat-the-rich-liberals-wil...

http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb105-10.html

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/06/01/discouraging-retirement-savings...

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/

http://www.cato.org/search_results.php?q=Wealthiest+US+Tax+payers&a...

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/04/16/count-down-to-the-good-the-bad-...

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/02/25/the-president-health-proposal-t...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/19/heritage-responds-to-obamas-deb...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/26/video-rep-paul-ryan-on-saving-t...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?252154-Illegal-Immigrat...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/21/morning-bell-biden-and-reids-jo...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/14/morning-bell-why-obamacare-migh...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/23/morning-bell-the-latest-obamaca...

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/25/morning-bell-we-cant-wait-eithe...

When you look at the whole picture, our government is clearly spending way too much period. These Marxist Progressives have allowed our country to run without a budget for over 920 plus days, that is unconscionable. Money is being spent right and left, out of county, with absolutely NO accountability. Lies are being told to the American people right and left by the Progressives who have been clearly running our country into the ground since 2007. Every day new unnecessary spending crops up to the public. Money is literally flowing our of our country to foreign countries via Federal Government. There was millions discovered that went

[Douglas Newberry]

I appreciate that you have an open and thinking mind Amanda. I wish it would catch on as a trend.

[amanda choate]

JL,

Income disparity does matter, that last time in our natins history that it was this great was 1928, and we all know what that brought about.

It is more than just making good investments, it is the rules being bent towards the one percent.

Did you notice that the exact amount that the bottom 99% went down is what hte 0ne percent went up.

Look if a person has their own money on the line , no problem. But if a CEO is collecting 20 million and has no skin in the gane, then that isn't capitalism that is cronism.

Taxes should be structured in a way to reward the guy who creates jobs, we need a thriving middle-class moreso than we need 400 people whose total worth is greater than the bottom 150 million Americans. This isn't the way it always was, this has just happened in the last thirty years. This isn't how it always was, it is how it has become. When America has thrived, this isn't how it looked. When America thrived, the middle class was thriving.

But JL what of the questions I posed, what do you say to them?

[JL Gawlik]

It is also interesting to note that wealth of Congressional members have shot up greatly in 2010, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi's wealth shot up over 62% in one year, should we go after her too?

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/166599-pelosis-ne...