Are FCTP Members Concerned About Accuracy?

[Lizzie]

Dear FCTP members,

As an American, I believe in the freedom of speech; we can agree or disagree and often it will be the latter.  However, censorship is suspect.  Censorship by a blogger on FCTP doesn't surprise me, however, on 25 July 2012, a post appeared on the FCTP site entitled: "Every American To Be Microchipped In 2013 Per Obamacare (Patriot Update)".  I posted a response questioning the accuracy of the data presented and it was deleted by the blogger.  Yes, I recognize it was the person's right to administrate his blog, but of what was he so afraid?  

My response, to the data provided in the above mentioned blog, was as follows:  I decided to do some research to discern the validity  of the statement.   Since it stated this would occur "Per Obamacare in 2013"  I first sought out certified documents of the Affordable Healthcare Act (HR 3962) and those documents which were instructive of the FDA's regulations on implantable medical devices.  The link provided in the original post for documentation was indicated as: ObamanableCare PDF, which by the description should be a red-flag to all readers as being a bit, shall we say, non-official?   In addition, the video provided in the blog showed documents from the FDA (blurry, but still legible if freeze-framed) so I thought this would be important to validate as well.  

My research led me to the following sites:   

http://housedocs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.3962:/ (Library of Congress)

The next step was a text search of the passed bill for the passages quoted by Paul McGuire, the original author.  The text as quoted could NOT be electronically found in the content of these bills and websites.  I question, therefore, is the statement "Every American to Be Microchipped in 2013 Per Obamacare" accurate? Could the text be buried within the bill?  Possible, but it is not found in an electronic search...  If someone can provide proof I would welcome the opportunity to read the documents. 

The FDA regulates implantable medical devices.  Many of us have such a device, all of which have an identifying number documented in our medical records. That is not news.  It has been done since long before President Obama came on the political scene.    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm148010.htm (Food & Drug Admin.)

 

My original post to the above blog was deleted several times, and then the text was manipulated and reinserted upside down in a pathetic attempt to discredit my post.  Sophmoric? Censorship? You decide.

I have now been called "Leftie Lizzie"  by several, to include following, "Lizzie Leftie's  insistence on hijacking this thread has got my curiosity about what she must be so afraid of being told.  If the establishment and  Lizzie Leftie don't like it, it is probably true."    Perhaps, I like accuracy in documentation and concerned the post may NOT be true... I am more "afraid" of individuals with a desire to post items which are geared more to incite than to be insightful, false rather than true.  Perhaps I don't believe everything found on the Internet, and hope others would question and research?  

There are members (less than 10 out of 7300+) who regularly post comments, personal in nature about several members, which is their right, yes indeed, thanks to the freedom of speech! Yet they cry foul if someone thinks the non-stop dialogue on guns (who do they plan on shooting?), and campaigning sounds a tad extreme..  IMHO, they seek to silence any who disagree.   

Information regarding Paul McGuire, (the original author from what is able to be tracked on the Internet of the "Microchip" blog, and the source is included), is as follows and I must wonder, is he simply attempting to sell his book?  Kudos for capitalism, shame for untruths? 

" At fifteen years old, Paul was demonstrating with radical activist Abbie Hoffman and made an honorary member of the Black Panther Party. However, while studying “Altered States of Consciousness” at the University of Missouri, Paul had a miraculous experience hitchhiking in a remote area similar to the movie “Field of Dreams.” Paul re-thought his socialist and humanist world view and rejected it as completely false. Paul has devoted his life to communicating truth to people."       (Link: http://www.newswithviews.com/McGuire/paul135.htm )

The FCTP website is a strong tool to inform and engage in discussion.  However, if items posted are false, or at least suspect, how does it impact the content of this website and its' goals for the future.  

Was the original post accurate? Is that important to the FCTP organization?

FYI.. "Leftie Lizzie" is a registered Independent, private sector business owner and not a "leftie", "liberal" or any of the other charming adjectives the members here have used...  

P.S.  ... since my original deleted post, articles have appeared on the Internet questioning the 'breaking news' story of the original post.. SO, I guess I am not the only one who doubted...

 

 

[Lizzie]

OH.. and since I don't know ALL the FCTP rules, I doubt anything will ever get deleted...

As the saying goes, have at it...

[Lizzie]

I would suggest if a member feels their comments are being unfairly eliminated do one of two things, either start their own blog (as I did with this one) or submit a report to the powers that be...

All comments will be posted here as long as they fit the FCTP "rules"....

[Lizzie]

Everyone's comments are being posted here.  None deleted.  "approval" was suggested by Leanne.  I took her advice.. 

[Lizzie]

If you listen to the liberal media.. the newsreaders love to use the term "they".   Anyone ever yell at the television and ask "Who is 'they'"??  One of my personal peeves... Next time you listen to a media show, listen.. see how many times you hear the liberal media pundits use the term "they"... just saying...

[Lizzie]

And FYI, anyone reading this: The author of a blog should be able to ask what a comment refers to, and ask a question.  I am not of the opinion attempting to discern if the comment is generalized (aka vague) or if someone is writing from an emotional response should be considered an attack. 

If anyone accuses people of trying to drive someone away, well, I think the blogger should say "who"..  that's all.  Ya'll can say what ever you want, I believe in freedom of speech... But I will ask questions... Just FYI... 

[Lizzie]

Roma, it appears that you're either not able to state who your "some" is (is it an unsubstantiated accusation?), or you are simply unwilling. Either way is fine, as you do have freedom of speech, and you are able to say the vague, emotional statements including "some", "most" "all" etc without the comments being deleted here.
However, I think generalized statements don't serve to gain any positive result, and snarky comments don't reflect well on the Tea Party... But hey, go for it.

[Lizzie]

Roma, you state below: "Obviously some here are not for accuracy, not for understanding, nor even clarification.  Some  are here to create division, so as to run people off, and to shut down freedom of speach (sic)".

Who is "some"?  ( I am seeking specifics in my blog.. txs)

[Leanne King]

:)

[Lizzie]

It is always interesting to see how things turn out in the long run...  especially here on the new and approved, I mean improved, FCTP blog-sphere...

Hope everyone has a fabulous day on the First Coast... off to work to make me a few riches so the gov't can take it away... (if they can find it!)

[amanda choate]

Ken you are right, libertarians assume no law first. But there is no proof of a successful libertarian country. Haiti is very nearly lawless, as is Somalia and the Sudan. Russia has become a gangster economy in the wake of the loss of the regulations. Just as liberals pin their hopes on helping people have a better outcome, libertarians hold the same Pollyanna attitude.

And the notion that the market will punish those bad actors is ludicrous. It is just fantasy. I wish I could believe that it could work, because that would be my choice, but I can't make my self beleive it with all the empirical evidence to the contrary.